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(#292) To the Codebreakers toiling at the take Of foreign voice and ditty chases. For those who served behind the scenes In far off secret places. Their silence sworn by solemn oaths To strive with vigil stealth To fathom evil, hostile foes No thoughts of praise or wealth. This is the Syndrome of the labyrinth, That eats one's pride away, There is no fame for anything; It is no game they play. It's Freedom Through Vigilance, Their stated creed, you see. To serve our nation tried and true The way it ought to be. These are the loyal, silent few. And because of their noble strife, Their faithful trust, that has no end, Shall preserve our way of life. Their countrymen might never know Of deeds they've done not told. Without their part, no war is won, The hot wars or the cold. (#293) Bill Gwathney bgwathney@siscom.net Tue, Jul 22, 2008, 1:08pm (CDT+1) My father is Earl W. Gwathney. He was a MSgt. and the senior ranking photog (Photo Technician) on Rivet Ball (Circa 1967-69). My father died in 1978, 2 years after retirement. I started researching his military background recently and came across the website that Mr. King Hawes has graciously created. I am very proud to learn of his teams accomplishments and would welcome feedback from anyone that knew my father. This website has been a breath of fresh air. A ton of history that families, friends, and strangers can all learn from. Thank you for taking the time and effort to pull this together. Sincerely, William L. Gwathney (#294) Bill Maxwell xenia.bill@hotmail.com Sat, Aug 2, 2008, 9:56am (CDT+1) Dear Sir: Enjoyed viewing everyone's memories of "the Rock." I scanned the list of folks who submitted inputs and saw Chuck Davenport's name. I was assigned to the 24 SRS 80-84 and was one of the lucky survivors of the CB II (664) crash on the Ides of March (15 March 1981). It was a fateful day and we lost some very good people (Bennett, Mayfield, Balcer, Parsons, Kish, Ginter). An interesting note was that the flight on CB II was my Raven 4 checkride. Bruce Carson was the evaluator. One memory was Bruce turning his crew seat to face aft prior to landing, which was standard procedure in preparation for a rough, or in this case, a crash landing. I looked and figured he knew something and so I faced my seat aft too! A thing that lots of people don't know is when 664 struck the end of the runway, it completely sheered off the main landing gear and engines 3 and 4, creating an asymmetric (and unflyable) flight configuration. We were so low during the approach we also struck approach light stanchions. The second hand story I heard was the pilot attempted to push up the throttles thinking it was a go-around, but the co-pilot pulled them back, whereupon we struck the main runway a second time, then careened off the runway to the right into a culvert, doing a complete 180 degree turn. If the part about the pilots is correct, I'm thankful to the copilot, because we would have wound up in the Bering Ocean due to the condition of the aircraft, and killing the whole lot of us (24). The aft section of the airplane was weakened during this and broke off as the airplane came to rest. Bruce preceeded me when we exited the right overwing hatch onto the wing which was on fire. We jumped off the leading edge, ran up the enbankment to the crew bus that scrambled to the crash site. Soon afterward there was a large "clap" as the fuel tanks ignited. I looked and saw a mushroom cloud rise from the site. The weather was bad and since the aircraft was off the runway in a ditch, the fire trucks could not get close enough to do any good. I suffered smoke inhalation and was on the first evacuation flight to Elmendorf. A P-3 from Adak provided transport. My injuries were insignificant compared to some of the others. 15 years to the day after the crash I returned to Offutt for the dedication of the 664 monument currently placed in front of the 45 RS. A few of the other survivors were there too, including Bill Van Horn, Rick Grove, Bruce Carson, etc. I was reassigned in 84 to March AFB and got the word that the TC-135 (121) crashed at Valdez with Kent Seckman, John Davis, and Mike Manning onboard. We lost more good people that day. I'm glad I was able to share these memories and hope I see more folks from the 24 SRS add their thoughts too. Bill Maxwell, Lt Col, USAF (Ret) (#295) Jacob Zimmerman jzimmerman@mdsol.com Thu, Aug 7, 2008, 1:50pm (CDT+1) Thanks very much for your website 'A Tale of Two Airplanes.' I'm not a military man, much less aircrew; I'm just a part-time analyst. But I've long been fascinated with the Cobra Ball and Rivet Joint missions and programs, and reading of the daddy of those programs gives me an appreciation both of their contribution and of the sacrifices of their crew. JB Zimmerman ----------- J.B. Zimmerman | Sr. Systems Engineer | Medidata Solutions Inc. 79 5th Ave 8th Floor New York, NY 10003 jzimmerman@mdsol.com | M: +1 (347) 482-1969 (#296) R.H. (Dick) Laughlin delta@txowl.com Thu, Sep 11, 2008, 5:07pm I just read your "A Tail of Two Airplanes" It was great. I was a sub system engineer at LTV in the late 60's and worked on the Rivet Ball cameras when it came in for IRAN. Jack Tumas (who I assume you knew) was a friend of mine. I am currently working on a proposal to the Missile Defense group at Kirkland and did not know what I could say about Rivet Ball so I did a Google search and found your site. I really enjoyed seeing an open publication and your prospective. R.H. (Dick) Laughlin President Optical Wireless d.b.a. DELTA IMAGE 903-561-6011 http://delta-image.com (#297) Bobby Shaffer doc7419@hotmail.com Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 9:03pm (CDT+1) I served my time there in the early 80's. I remember riding the "SAC TURN" and "Reever", explaining Shemya to someone not being in the military or "government work" is impossible. Of my 15 plus assignments this one is most remembered, because I met my, Yes, future wife. Bob "Doc" Shaffer (#298) Carl Bruce Rideout uccbr@aol.com Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 9:00am (CDT+1) Many thanks for the memories of what others did for our protection & future freedom!! Carl Bruce Rideout Suffolk, VA (#299) Tom Martel Email address deleted Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 9:10pm (CST+1) Dear Col. Hawes, It has been a great pleasure (and an unexpectedly emotional experience) to review the great content on your Rivet Ball/Rivet Amber website. The men who flew those missions, as well as those who worked hard to keep the equipment operational for the mission and safe for the crews, were among America's very finest. They represent the dedication to excellence, the creativity, and the can-do attitude that makes America "a light unto the world." I'm 53 years old, sir, and I believe that the hard work, talent, professionalism, and willingness to sacrifice comfort and an easy life for our country of yourself and the others at Shemya made it possible for me and my generation to grow up safe, under the illusion that our future would be simple and free. What a great gift for us. It was, perhaps, wasted on some of us, but not all. Very Truly Yours, Tom Martel (#300) Allan, Michael Michael.Allan@pferdusa.com Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 7:57pm I too have my Shemya memories. Besides the flight line folklore told by flight and ground crews when on alert or just passing time I was fortunate enough to have been on the ramp at "The Rock" in that summer of 1995 to have my own story to tell my kids. We left our TDY station at Eielson bound for the "Black Pearl" I was excited and I remember the approach to the island and from my vantage point in the jump seat; the waves seemed to crash right onto the hammerhead. We were lucky that first day as weather was no issue; clear skies all around. I remember clinching my armrests with such a tight grip for dear life I probably left marks in them. We landed; and as we were prepping our KC-135A 61-0288 for strip alert; the weather shifts Shemya was known for appeared. It was June and there were mild temp's of about 50 degrees. The mercury plunged to the low 40's and a snow squall blew across the ramp. We thought OK; what's next? The foxes were busy and so were we. We cocked the airplane and went to our "accommodations" for the trip. Just like everyone had told us they were what we expected and more. We had a nice tour of the island by some "locals" and found it awesome. The dumps were calling me to explore them; but duty calls. We left "The Rock" under typical Shemya skies (there was no sky) low clouds and wind; just barely legal but we wanted to get the hell out of there before we too became a tale to be told by aircrews. I really enjoyed your "Tale of Two Planes" Michael Allan EC-135 Crew Chief Ellsworth AFB 1981-1986 Michael D. Allan Manufacturing Engineer Pferd Advance Brush W142 N9251 Fountain Blvd. Menomonee Falls, WI 53051 Phone (262)255-3200 Ext. 281 Fax (262)255-2840 Email michael.allan@pferdusa.com |
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